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Mike's avatar

Thanks Nick for taking the time to both find out the truth and tell the whole story

The Masculine Institute's avatar

When I saw that video, I had two thoughts.

1. This reminds me of the 1994 B-52 crash, where a hotdog cost lives.

https://theaviationist.com/2024/06/24/the-crash-of-b-52h-czar-52/

2. AI slop.

As you say, this was real and a near miss, with the ground.

Having been in the military, in a high risk career field, on flying status, annual requals in hyper and hypo baric chambers, and tons of CRM training, this video and the Fairchild accident quickly checked the boxes of the failure tree, that probably has been branching out for years. Breakdowns in things as distant from the runway and cockpit as company procedures, compliance systems and oversight are glaring here. The average passenger is oblivious to these things and many others, that gets them to and from destinations with the only issues being cold coffee or a unsatisfying meal.

Suffice it to say, you do not want your flight to ever be like a hollywood movie, even if the pilot rolls the plane and saves everyone. You want it to be like a textbook, check listed report, of an incident that a cool calm and methodical pilot worked diligently to pull from the brink of death, to meeting loved ones at curbside pick-up.

Steve Kelly's avatar

My first thought was of that B52 crash as well, a little more aft pressure on that stick and that right wing starts to stall and it would have been the same rolling fireball down the runway

MU2002's avatar

Grew up in Spokane. Will never forget that tragedy at Fairchild AFB

Thomas's avatar

In Texas, you say...(hearing a voice quietly drawl 'hold my beer...')...?

Michael's avatar

Had the right wing contacted the ground, a cartwheel to Diaster may have happened …

Bob, the Free Radical's avatar

OK . . . why is it ( do you think? ) that it was reported that the alleged "FLT175" plane penetrated completely into the South tower ( WTC - NYC ) when it approached said tower with the following attitude - Yaw=14 deg, Pitch=6 deg, Roll=38 deg . . . and with that, allegedly penetratied straight into the tower without any deviation in attitude . . . . how positively MAD!

Bill's avatar

The final words found on cockpit recorder are "fuck y'all, I quit".

Lynn W Gardner's avatar

Pilot Nick, a question, would not the ground proximity warning system been blaring as the pilot had the jet feet off the ground with no landing gear and warning lights flashing across the dash board?

Aldo did not the leasing company risk loosing the contract as this does not put Qutar in the best of light as the public would not know that the jet had not been delivered to the end user when this occurred?

Lastly, is this not a reflection of the β€œtop gun” attitude of a small minority of pilots (permission to buss the tower)?

Mackie Messer's avatar

I share your outrage! Retired AA Capt.

V Warren - nee Bicunas's avatar

Well I have story. I live in Clovis California and I used to drive on Clovis Avenue to get home from work and I have to pass by the airport not the main airport I think it's the Air Force National Guard Airport. And they would fly the I don't know f-16s or whatever they fly this was about probably 8 years ago. And I used to take Private Pilot lessons never soloed but I had a lot of lessons. And they're two lanes in each Direction going north and south on Clovis Avenue. The plane was flying over the northbound lane crossing over the other southbound lane over a Cyclone Fence to get to the runway. This pilot was so close to my car my car shook. He almost nicked the Cyclone Fence and he almost hit the very beginning of the runway with a nose dive fortunately he pulled up just in time. That was really wicked to watch. I'm really glad he didn't crash.

Elmbutcher's avatar

Do you have the lip of the 727 doing a barrel row on test flight

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Elmbutcher's avatar

The boss was upset, till another engineer explained what a 1G roll was

But it was his 5 million dollar plane , still cool